S: Okay.
Let's see. Jyoti says she needs a new kind of approach to connecting
with the version of God that is appropriate to her. Is it that
worship is inappropriate outside the Yahweh structure and teachings?
Is that why she can't figure out how to connect with Athena,
for example? Would Athena be an appropriate Goddess/God for Jody
to commune with? To pray to?
MELORA: All right, and our Jyoti asks a number of questions
there. Athena would be an appropriate God/Goddess [for
her] but not to pray to--to commune with, not to worship.
Our Jyoti, for quite some years, has been able to commune with
Athena. Again, this is a major shift in her consciousness understanding
and allowance of a possibility in terms of not structuring a
relationship in terms of the old Yahweh paradigm . . . not structuring
her relationship with an Ascended Being or Deity, or whatever
you want to call who Athena is in all her many dimensions, or
in her multi-dimensional evolution. If our Jyoti can indeed incorporate
what is coming in to her very DNA today this morning, then she
will realize that she can not only commune with Athena but she
can BE Athena, in a major sense, as an incarnational aspect of
the Goddess and be liberated from the separation that she has
experienced, not only in this lifetime but in other lifetimes
in that assignment with Athena here.
S: That's wonderful. So she'll be able to do that?
MELORA: Yes.
S: Soon?
MELORA: Now--in this understanding.
S:
Thank you. Jyoti's next question
is: "The ancients in Crete said that Athena created Mankind
on Earth. Could you comment on this?"
MELORA: [Athena]
created some people on Earth. [laughs]
S:
What is the correlation between
Athena, Shekhina, Mother Mary, and so forth?
MELORA: Again, they are
various expressions of Divine Feminine energy and lineage.
S:
So they're all basically the same?
MELORA:
There are qualities of each that
are distinguished in certain ways. Just as you would think of
certain people having certain predominant personality traits
that others do not have, they embody or express various aspects
of the Divine Feminine. This means the more predominant aspects--not
that each one is not whole in itself but on Earth and in all
of Creation, whether you're thinking physical or energetic into
the many universes. Individual Souls will be at various stages
of, as we would put it, of "whole expression." Another answer to the question "To whom
is it appropriate to connect as your Divine?": We would
say your "Divine Guide" is an appropriate expression--the
highest Divine Guide that can communicate with YOU, because beings
evolve so far, they become so advanced, that they cannot resonate
with the density here or have communion with it. Do you see?
That is why it is necessary to have "intercessors."
That is why it is appropriate to say to your Higher Self: "Please
pass along this request to my appropriate Divine Guide."
S: Yes, so we're talking
about "the chain of command."
MELORA: "The chain
of communication" is how we would term it.
S:
That's even better. Thank you. I
want to get back to the question about those in ancient Crete
who said that Athena created mankind on Earth. You said "some
of them." Could you get a little more specific about Athena's
creations?
MELORA: Yes.
If you follow the embodiments of Athena (or the legends, as it
were--or the history, as we would call it) of her successive
embodiments on Earth and the interactions she had with people
on Earth, you're really tracing the Greek civilization back to
what they called its ancient roots. These roots are more ancient
than recorded history can give you because you go back approximately
only to the Iron Age, or you go back to some particular 3rd-dimensional
Age on Earth in written history and then before that you don't
have any information.
S:
Are there any names that we would
recognize?
MELORA: We would really
like more to dwell on how she was expressed in more ancient times
(or how she expressed herself in ancient times). This
goes to our Jyoti's question about the expression of healing
energy as it was seen and experienced clairvoyantly and its having
been associated with the snake, which was latched on to for the
whole thing about the Garden of Eden and Satan and all of this
kind of thing. In the most ancient times, Athena embodied on
Earth in a form of what we would call a priestess type being
and did have some commerce in Atlantis and Lemuria. But there
were civilizations previous to Atlantis that are unknown, or
unmentioned, in your time now.
Athena has
always come as a voice of clear understanding of the reality
not only on Earth but also above and has been variously misunderstood
or misinterpreted, as all other gods have been, according to
the limitations of human consciousness.
Her healing has always been aimed
toward mental misunderstand- ings, clearing up illusion, expressing
the truth--meaning, the Higher Truth--even as it tries to come
through and express through 3rd-dimensional life and consciousness. Part of that healing energy, for Athena, is
expressed as though coming out in those finger-like flames that
Jean Houston described--coming out of her body and out of her
energy source, which goes very high up indeed to what we would
think of as a Divinity even higher than she . . . or her Overbeing
at the level of God/Goddess.
With her energy
source almost like a computer hub, if you will, she was able
to draw energy from that source and have it come through her
body, without harm to her physical body, and actually envelope
chosen people with it. As we follow her into Classical Greece,
she is interpreted as having helped the Greeks against the Trojans,
and so forth. What happened at that point is that after many
millennia of association with the Greek ancestry as it comes
into expression in Classical Greece, people were long-familliar
with Athena's attributes but begin to impose certain qualities
on her and certain decisions and certain commerce that didn't
actually occur. This is much like the patriarchs of Judaism starting
to impose their agendas on the established religion.
S:
That reminds me of what you said
[in another session] about Medusa--the males being afraid of
female power and creating a myth / legend / lie, whatever, to
discredit . . .
MELORA:
Right. To discredit. Turning Medusa
into a gorgon's head with snaky hair that can turn people into
stone, etc.
S:
But that wasn't Athena . . .
MELORA: No. Of course not.
And neither was the springing forth in full armor from Zeus'
head business true. So they begin to create a myth about who
Athena is.
S:
Jyoti's next question is: "Is
the most exalted expression of Athena as high or higher than
Yahweh?"
MELORA: Higher.
S:
"Meaning the Yahweh of the
Old Testament?"
MELORA: Yes.
S: "Is there any place Jyoti can find information
about Athena in her true goddess form?"
MELORA: Some
day, when our Jyoti is able to go to Athens and to visit the
Acropolis, she will be able to receive that information--quite
a lot of information--right into her energetic DNA and is able
to tap into that in certain "channeling" states, and
already has, by what she's posted on the website and experienced
in that way. That resolution is incomplete. As it says in the
article, the session [re: soul retrieval for an embodiment of
Athena in Classical Greece] ended abruptly, but we are telling
[Jyoti] now, as she comes into full communion with Athena in
this appropriate and new way of understanding, that much of this
can be healed and resolved.
In this embodiment for our Jyoti, going
to the Acropolis is going to flood her with information about
many incarnations in that lineage that she not only shares but
that she has also embodied. This, for her, would be the most
direct way to retrieve that information. Although it is possible
to do it in states of meditation, although in meditation she
is going to get fragments that may not be related to each other
very easily for her, whereas actually being in that energetic
space is going to give our Jyoti this information. (By the way,
the Parthenon still holds its sacred morphogenic structure--as
the Temple of Solomon still exists morphogenically, as all great
such as the Pyramid of Giza have. These
sacred structures have the etheric architectural plan that precedes
the physical expression or materialization.)
S: Right.
I think that's what happened with me in Egypt, when I went to
the [Great] Pyramid. When's she going to Greece?
MELORA: This may not be for a time, just financially.
We're seeing that it may not be for another five to ten years.
S: The next question is about Jyoti's friend, W.,
who said that Athena is a vibration of radiation. That's why
people are so often physically uncomfortable with Jyoti. This
W. person said that Jyoti also has this vibration of radiation.
Is this true?
MELORA: We're
receiving that this, again, is a partial understanding of a quality
of energy that all in the Athena Soul Assignment have. (And please
remind us to discuss, further, Soul Assignment concepts in case
we get diverted.) It's a certain resonance of energy, and it
may lie dormant. It can be latent in a person, but as our Jyoti
continues to develop, this energy predominates more. This is
akin to what she said in the other new piece up on the website
about passive versus active spiritual energy. So you have the
passive Buddha-like or Quan Yin energy, which is like the Moon
Faced Buddha--of Grace operating without any directed energy.
It's just a being-ness energy. Then you have the Buddha with
the Sword, like the spiritual warrior energy of Archangel Michael,
and so forth. In that sense Athena has that more warrior-like
energy. It is an active, dynamic energy.
Now, when our Jyoti was young, she expressed this in activity,
so there would be a dynamism in her activities--not so much in
her personality or in the energy that she emanates. As time goes
on, this energy is starting to be drawn from that Source, as
we described Athena drawing this energy from her Overbeing, where
it now permeates her physical body and her Higher Bodies and
is now contacting other people just in the space around her.
In that sense it radiates, but it is not like radioactive, which
is more the connotation that W. made.
Now the rest of the question regarding the so-called Reptilians
comes from those archaic associations bad-mouthing Athena, stomping
out the Goddess and saying that "snake" energy is bad,
and of the Devil or whatever people did with it to make the Goddess
seem so frightening and overwhelming. This was really a description
of that power and the way that power moves. If you can imagine
this power moving like fingers of flame now from our Jyoti and
now affecting other people around her, they're going to have
somewhat the same reaction as those in ancient times did. Because
they're not conscious of what it is--they're not conscious of
what's happening and they're not clairvoyantly seeing anything--then
the first thing that happens is that people go into fear when
there's power there. This is why lesser
gods were able to control people and why lesser beings on Earth
are able to control people-- because people of lower consciousness
fear power. Rather than trying to understand and then
empower themselves, they either fear it or they become subjugated
and bonded to the one who's exhibiting power.
Left:
Archaic statue of Athena (Acropolis Museum, Athens. As it turns
out, Jyoti traveled to Greece in May 2002 . . .) Photo by Jyoti Alla-An.
Our Jyoti's conflict
about this quality of power has been described in the two soul
retrieval articles regarding an incarnation as Athena,
actually. She actually embodied the statue of Athena in the Parthenon.
There was this whole thing where the other priestesses were jealous
and felt so uncomfortable that they said she wasn't really who
she said she was. Therefore, she sort of self-immolated or "crisped"
herself out rather than ascending in that lifetime because of
deferring to their lower consciousness, jealousies, and misunderstandings.
In that experience our Jyoti asked, "Does that mean that
I might be doing the same thing in this lifetime--letting others'
opinions of me keep me from ascending?"and the answer was
"Yes."
S:
But she can change that?
MELORA: Yes.
That's what this whole process we're working on today with your
help is leading to. In order to come into full empowerment as
who she is, our Jyoti needs to trust that she's not going to
run rampant over people when she comes into empowerment. She
needs not to have these false structures, these cross-checks
to make sure that she doesn't violate karmic considerations here.
Once she's liberated from the Yahweh guilt and from the other
religious guilt things that are so inculcated in people here,
she will be able to step into alignment--this is the term we
wish to use--step into alignment with her lineage and her Soul
Assignment with Athena. She will have that particular resonance
and the power of that connection, and get rid of the necessity
for human embodiment as all comes together at the Soul level
in a massive soul retrieval.
Now, this is not instantaneous, but
it can be discerned and be more powerfully felt, more at some
times than others. At least she will not be taking two steps
forward and one step back.
S:
That's wonderful. So this will be
accomplished in this embodiment?
MELORA: It is possible in this embodiment, and
the rest is up to her. We cannot predict for a certainty that
she will be able to allow this. We're saying that what we have
moved out and through today, and what she has come to understand
(starting even before the session) empowers her to move in that
direction much more intensively and much more effectively.
S:
Let me ask what your relationship
is with Jyoti.
MELORA: Our
relationship is that we are more and more her Higher Self. We
are a group consciousness, and so therefore you must infer that
her Higher Self is a group consciousness as well.
S: It
is possible for you to descend into her?
MELORA: We have already been descending into her. She
understands that she is not channeling us. She is currently calling
it "linking" with us, but we are saying to her that
we have been merging with her over time more and more. Only the
limitations of her consciousness allowance and understanding
keep her from experience that merging as fully as she could in
everyday moments.
S:
Do you have any steps for her that
will help to accelerate this process?
MELORA: The
steps are much like you described and like what we discussed
with you about just letting that happen. The prescription or
recipe, if you will, is much the same as what we were describing
for all who wish to come into total communion with the
Divine aspect of them--the highest Divine aspect of them that
is able to communicate with them. That is, again, to keep refining
the relationship with Ego as it is necessary in the physical
body for your survival. Ego is your survival tool in 3rd Dimension.
You don't want to annihilate it; you just need to re-train it
and to come into a different relationship with it, so that your
Ego becomes a tool instead of your master.
Now, when you come into total Heart/Spirit
connection, then that Ego tool has no more control over you.
You are using it not only to keep you grounded enough that you
can complete your work here [laughs] but also to help you relate
to other people. Don't use it as a tool to resolve spiritual
questions. Don't use it as a source of answers for spiritual
questions. Don't use it as a tool anywhere but in 3rd-Dimensional
survival issues, if you will--meaning, "I have to go to
work today. I'd better set my alarm clock." That's it. Retraining
the Ego means not allowing it to tryp to process such questions
as those that have been asked today.
S: But
if we're going to have at-onement with the Ego, it is possible
to have the Ego not be greater or less than the mind.
MELORA:
You do not wish to attune to
the Ego, which is what at-onement is. You wish the Ego to attune
to you.
S Ah!
MELORA: . . . and to work
with you. This may be a revolutionary statement for most people.
S:
I was think of the joining together
of, but you're talking about bringing the Ego up--
MELORA: .
. . to a higher-vibrational association with the true Being that
you are. Most people are bringing
themselves down vibrationally to the level of their Ego
and serving their Ego.
S:
I'd like some more steps on elevating
the Ego.
MELORA: All right. Any choice
that is not made out of love is inappropriate, will tie you to
karma, because you're attached to the outcome through your Ego.
So when the Hindus describe detachment, they're saying that any
attachment you have to the results of what you do, say, or think
is to be avoided. It's like a Higher part of you monitors the
choices that you make, and you can be sure that it's not the
higher consciousness if you're thinking, I'm going to give
her this valentine because it will feel so good when she gets
so excited about it. [laughs] However, that doesn't mean
NOT to give her the valentine.
S:
No. No. No. Just give it out of
love.
MELORA:
Right. And not be attached to the
outcome.
S:
It's out of love, totally.
MELORA: Yes, and that's
not an easy thing, is it? So
you refine and re-train, so that through your free-will choices,
instead of knee-jerking to an Ego choice, you now stop and examine
it with your higher consciousness and say: "Am I invested
in this? Am I doing this because of my Ego need?" If I am,
I don't slap my Ego on the hand with a ruler like an evil nun.
I just say: "No. I'm going to make this choice instead."
You keep re-training your Ego that you will no longer allow it
to rule you. You train it so that it no longer dictates the choices
that you make and the actions that you take. This is a process.
You just start now, and those are the steps. You continue to
have your higher consciousness monitor the choices that you make
instead of doing things out of habit--instead of just going in
to your Ego-based emotions as the source of why you make certain
choices.